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The idea of humans having free will on planet earth is a very provocative one as it encompasses various belief systems that are unprovable to date. Have a look at what biologists have to say...


When biologist Anthony Cashmore claims that the concept of free will is an illusion, he's not breaking any new ground. At least as far back as the ancient Greeks, people have wondered how humans seem to have the ability to make their own personal decisions in a manner lacking any causal component other than their desire to "will" something. But Cashmore, Professor of Biology at the University of Pennsylvania, says that many biologists today still cling to the idea of free will, and reject the idea that we are simply conscious machines, completely controlled by a combination of our chemistry and external environmental forces.

In a recent study, Cashmore has argued that a belief in free will is akin to religious beliefs, since neither complies with the laws of the physical world. One of the basic premises of biology and biochemistry is that biological systems are nothing more than a bag of chemicals that obey chemical and physical laws. Generally, we have no problem with the “bag of chemicals” notion when it comes to bacteria, plants, and similar entities. So why is it so difficult to say the same about humans or other “higher level” species, when we’re all governed by the same laws?

No causal mechanism

As Cashmore explains, the human brain acts at both the conscious level as well as the unconscious. It’s our consciousness that makes us aware of our actions, giving us the sense that we control them, as well. But even without this awareness, our brains can still induce our bodies to act, and studies have indicated that consciousness is something that follows unconscious neural activity. Just because we are often aware of multiple paths to take, that doesn’t mean we actually get to choose one of them based on our own free will. As the ancient Greeks asked, by what mechanism would we be choosing? The physical world is made of causes and effects - “nothing comes from nothing” - but free will, by its very definition, has no physical cause. The Roman philosopher and poet Lucretius, in reference to this problem of free will, noted that the Greek philosophers concluded that atoms "randomly swerve" - the likely source of this movement being the numerous Greek gods.

Today, as researchers gain a better understanding of the molecular details underlying consciousness, some people think that we may discover a molecular mechanism responsible for free will - but Cashmore doesn’t think so. Such a discovery, he says, would require a new physical law that breaks the causal laws of nature. As it is, the only “wild card” that allows any room for maneuvering outside of genetics and one’s environment is the inherent uncertainty of the physical properties of matter, and even this stochastic element is beyond our conscious control. (However, it can help explain why identical twins growing up in the same environment are unique individuals.)


To put it simply, free will just doesn’t fit with how the physical world works. Cashmore compares a belief in free will to an earlier belief in vitalism - the belief that there are forces governing the biological world that are distinct from those governing the physical world. Vitalism was discarded more than 100 years ago, being replaced with evidence that biological systems obey the laws of chemistry and physics, not special biological laws for living things.

“I would like to convince biologists that a belief in free will is nothing other than a continuing belief in vitalism (or, as I say, a belief in magic),” Cashmore told PhysOrg.com



Read more at: http://phys.org/news/2010-03-free-illusion-biologist.html#jCp
 
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I think free will is misunderstood. I don't think it means we have free will to do anything we want but instead means that we have free will to follow the path that we setup for this life before we incarnated. In other words, we have free will as to how we get down the path as long as we do indeed get there.
 

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I think free will is misunderstood. I don't think it means we have free will to do anything we want but instead means that we have free will to follow the path that we setup for this life before we incarnated. In other words, we have free will as to how we get down the path as long as we do indeed get there.
But I think we can also decide NOT to follow that path as well. But I suspect things will go quite a bit rougher for us if we don't... s:p

I wonder if our HS would see that kind of behavior in a similar way as a parent would see a misbehaving child...hmmmm.

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But I think we can also decide NOT to follow that path as well. But I suspect things will go quite a bit rougher for us if we don't... s:p

I wonder if our HS would see that kind of behavior in a similar way as a parent would see a misbehaving child...hmmmm.

:rolleyes:
I tend to think that once the path of learning is decided upon for the incarnation we do follow our path and that our guides make sure we do by nudging us in the right direction.
 
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Asleep humans do not have free will, they act based on programmes and beliefs. Only. once the Higher Self has absorbed as much information as it needs will the human start to awaken to it's spiritual life. Then free will, which is available to the soul, comes into play.

However it is important for humans to believe in free will otherwise we could not play out the dramas that we play with full emotional volume. If you KNOW that the person who just betrayed you cannot help it as it is in their programming, then you will not react, feel pain or struggle to understand and overcome or take revenge.

What creates the programming? Gosh everything from the astrological influences, culture, parents, genes. I think what the Jesuits said was spot on. "Give me a child until he is 7 and I will give you the man.
 

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