Info COVID–19: Origin & Theories/Info Including Loss of Civil Liberties (6 Viewers)

[therium]

The R0 value is a value of how much a disease spreads. Values > 1 mean they spread more. But what if we compare the claimed R0 value of the beer virus to other diseases? The beer virus is not so scary, that's why the narrative does not include the R0 anymore.



Sylvia Brown's prediction about COVID in 2020.




99% of people in the US work for small businesses under 500 employees. It would be reasonable to assume this is similar in other countries as well. The fear that spreads from the COVID narrative is supposed to destroy the small businesses and make people more dependent on government. Getting people dependent on the gov't is a major part of the plan. From there, people who do not support the DNC party line, will not get gov't services. This has already started in the UK where people accused of "hate speech" will no longer get NHS services. There will be no trial, fingers will point, and your medical services will just stop. Sources: https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2019/11/04/uk-national-health-service-to-deny-treatment-for-racist-or-sexist-language-gestures-behaviour/ and https://www.redstate.com/brandon_morse/2019/11/06/uk-just-demonstrated-socialized-medicine-lack-free-speech-can-horrifying-dangerous/

Reducing the population is also part of the plan.

Old people are encourage to get sick, and die, (by the DS) as one poster pointed out. They present a much higher cost to the medical system per capita than any other age group. They are a much higher cost to federal programs like Medicare too. Older people just cost more because they have more health problems. Now add in the fact the US Social Security (the federal retirement fund) is spending more money each month than it is taking in, and the extra funds it had banked up, are being reduced and will be zero in a few years. The SS is a Ponzi scheme. Funds taken in each month, are then paid to retired people the next month. This is the very definition of a Ponzi scheme and is unsustainable. When SS first started there were 20 workers paying into the system for each retired person. Now there are 4 workers paying into the system for each retired person receiving funds.

Watch the future for legalized euthanasia to begin in some cities in the US. It will spread from there.

Quebec considers allowing doctors to euthanize dementia patients without their active consent. https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/quebec-considers-allowing-doctors-to-euthanize-dementia-patients-without-their-active-consent?utm_content=buffer92c74&utm_medium=WCEA+Buffer&utm_source=facebook&utm_campaign=WCEA

 

[therium]

Person misses his beer virus test, but test STILL comes out positive!


Many recent election years have a disease that is overblown and blamed on the current administration. Why, CNN just reported that Trump created the beer virus and gave it to 7 trillion people!


And yet, 2009 wasn't an election year and the flu hysteria was very different under Obama.

 

[Snowmelt]

 

[CrystalSong]

I have a friend 4 weeks into recovery from a flu which gave her Corona Toes (a known effect survivors get) Her symptoms were classic Covid. She was tested twice and it came back neg both times. She treated with HQ-whatever and Zinc packs. She's pulling out of it now. The incredible inconsistency of this flu are perplexing. Her doctor said it mutates faster than they can keep up with.

 

[Sinera]

And yet, 2009 wasn't an election year and the flu hysteria was very different under Obama.
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I'd be wary regarding the death/cases figures with all the data, be it swine or common influenza. The swine flu data was also blown out of proportion since most did not die of swine flu but of other causes (sounds familiar with today...).

The Swine Flu was at least in Europa a complete "hoax". No one wanted it in the end and zillions of paid for doses of Pandremix were destroyed then, but Big Pharma was paid by the countries and the WHO anyway.

The countless narcolepsy among the poor deceived people that took it cases were real and cannot denied though.

Swine flu vaccine far more dangerous than swine flu itself - NaturalNews.com

www.naturalnews.com

Yet I would not see this as a political argument at all.

 

[Sinera]

The ID pass is coming ... Full Spectrum Dominance Population Control will be reached very soon ...

Covid19-84

ID2020 and partners launch program to provide digital ID with vaccines | Biometric Update

The program to leverage immunization as an opportunity to establish digital identity was unveiled by ID2020 with the Bangladesh Government’s a2i Program.

www.biometricupdate.com

The future is ‘CLEAR’ and it’s Dystopian: Virus hype ushers in a Covid 19-84 nightmare of restricted access

Clear’s new Health Pass and other ‘Covid hi-tech innovations’ are a stark warning of how the globalist ‘New Normal’ being mapped out will operate. Access to travel, sport & restaurants may be barred for all who refuse to comply.

www.rt.com

What a Huxleyan/Orwellian BRAVE NEW WORLD (see Music thread ...)

 

[Snowmelt]

The future is ‘CLEAR’ and it’s Dystopian: Virus hype ushers in a Covid 19-84 nightmare of restricted access

Clear’s new Health Pass and other ‘Covid hi-tech innovations’ are a stark warning of how the globalist ‘New Normal’ being mapped out will operate. Access to travel, sport & restaurants may be barred for all who refuse to comply.

www.rt.com

"That’s how Condé Nast Traveller described the latest piece of technology by the biometric ID company Clear, which will help the authorities determine who will, and who will not, be allowed to go to the ball."

Who wants to go to the ball anyway, that's the Hunger Games.

 

[Bert]

I watched V for Vendetta a few weeks ago and it is a very appropriate description of the current regime. Even the cerfuw (23:30 - 6:00) has been set in in the region I live in. also all the propaganda, fake news,... is nicely descibed.
the big difference is that it is worldwide an not limited to one country (UK) as in the movie.

A global revolutions seems the only way to get out of it... how to awaken the sheep???

 

[Linda]

Who wants to go to the ball anyway, that's the Hunger Games.

I was wandering around with an explanation for this idea, and you nailed it.

 

[Sinera]

It is interesting that this officially published scientific study linking 5G with Covid has now been retracted by the editor in chief (not the scientists themselves!):

RETRACTED: 5G Technology and induction of coronavirus in skin cells - PubMed

This article has been retracted at the request of the Editor. After a thorough investigation the Editor-in-Chief has retracted this article as it showed evidence of substantial manipulation of the peer review.

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

 

[Sinera]

 

[Snowmelt]

The person who made that should have put "I am Here", because they can't really talk for others.

 

[Snowmelt]

 

[Snowmelt]

I just heard Del Bigtree from Highwire (situated in Texas) for the first time. Interesting, passionate speaker. He tested his own son live wearing various types of masks, to see what the CO2 ppm was (parts per million). I can't access that video to post here, but here is the list of carbon dioxide levels and potential health problems indicated by rising levels:

250-250 ppm : background (normal) outdoor air level

350-1000 ppm: typical level found in occupied spaces with good air exchange

1000-2000 ppm: Level associated with complaints of drowsiness and poor air

2000 - 5000 ppm: Level associated with headaches, sleepiness and stagnant, stale, stuffy air, poor concentration, loss of attention, increased heart rate and slight nausea may also be present

5000 ppm: This indicates unusual air conditions where high levels of other gases could be present. Toxicity or oxygen deprivation could occur. This is the permissalbe exposure limit for daily workplace exposures.

On Del Bigtree's video of tests he made with his son, they all went over 5,000 ppm after only a minute or two wearing the various masks, and one or two went to the maximum of the recording device (9,000 ppm) and basically off the scale.

 

[Snowmelt]

Long, intense, but informative discussion by two ladies from Michigan, USA, who are Subject Matter Experts in PPE (Personal Protective Equipment) and know their stuff, especially pertaining to laws in the State of Michigan or Federal USA, but it also contains a lot of general information that would be good for any of us outside those jurisdictions.

Go Girls!

 

[Sinera]

The person who made that should have put "I am Here", because they can't really talk for others.

It's a rhethorical tool using the generalising 'you'. Don't we always do that when we generalise about the state of the world and 'society' (using 'we' or 'you' or 'society' or 'humankind' or whatever)? Don't you do that too? Don't we all? It is nothing else here. It is meant to be funny and thought-provoking by the way.

 

[Linda]

I just heard Del Bigtree from Highwire (situated in Texas)

I've seen young children (under 10 yrs old) wearing masks here - in the heat. It is nuts.

Del is with Consent Action Network, which produced "Vaxxed". The video was taken down from youtube but is on their bit chute channel.

 

[Bert]

Just a new thought I had yesterday about the testing requirement for Covid in all the countries.
All countries are upping their testing requirements and facilities although there is no correlation between better testing and better control of the virus.
for example traveling to and from countries that have a high risk (more than 20-50 cases per 100 000; talk about high risk) you need to have a covid test.

The test they are doing now are PCR based tests. this is a genetic test based on duplication of DNA/RNA strands with a specific primer.
What if they are collecting DNA of all the population under the pretence of covid testing. What they will do with it I don't know but they certainly now have an opportunity to do it.

Maybe getting too paranoid but I don't see any logical reason to test completely healthy people ... or even mildly sick people. When in hospital you need to know to get the right treatment but up to that the body will take care of itself.

 

[Linda]

The test they are doing now are PCR based tests. this is a genetic test based on duplication of DNA/RNA strands with a specific primer.
What if they are collecting DNA of all the population under the pretence of covid testing.

Thought the same.

 

[Angela]

I just heard Del Bigtree from Highwire (situated in Texas) for the first time. Interesting, passionate speaker. He tested his own son live wearing various types of masks, to see what the CO2 ppm was (parts per million). I can't access that video to post here, but here is the list of carbon dioxide levels and potential health problems indicated by rising levels:

250-250 ppm : background (normal) outdoor air level

350-1000 ppm: typical level found in occupied spaces with good air exchange

1000-2000 ppm: Level associated with complaints of drowsiness and poor air

2000 - 5000 ppm: Level associated with headaches, sleepiness and stagnant, stale, stuffy air, poor concentration, loss of attention, increased heart rate and slight nausea may also be present

5000 ppm: This indicates unusual air conditions where high levels of other gases could be present. Toxicity or oxygen deprivation could occur. This is the permissalbe exposure limit for daily workplace exposures.

On Del Bigtree's video of tests he made with his son, they all went over 5,000 ppm after only a minute or two wearing the various masks, and one or two went to the maximum of the recording device (9,000 ppm) and basically off the scale.

I saw a video similar. A man with an OSHA approved co2 monitor was demonstrating essentially the same thing.
The past few people I've told just completely rolled their eyes, and asserted that they are safe. And even mentioned about how doctors use them all day every day.

 

[Snowmelt]

What if they are collecting DNA of all the population under the pretence of covid testing. What they will do with it I don't know but they certainly now have an opportunity to do it.

I don't think it's paranoid to think about and envisage all possibilities. I can understand some people are arrogant and inflated with their own self-importance, and pooh-pooh other people's ideas, but since 2014 I've been in circumstances where certain things in the social realm like work and acquaintances have been stripped away (I still have abundance to live, so it's not a complaint). It's just that 10, 15 or 20 years ago, I couldn't have foreseen myself in these circumstances.

Now, in this year of the introduction of Covid, and the imposed governance regulations on almost all aspects of our lives, I see that having individuals split away from the group and isolated is very much a factor in the lead up to everything that has been planned as an agenda. Because I see it, it doesn't worry me so much because I can create a life by mental means, like books, art, craft; but imagine the hundreds of thousands like me who are just plain suffering, with no-one to turn to.

 

[Alain]

Just a new thought I had yesterday about the testing requirement for Covid in all the countries.
All countries are upping their testing requirements and facilities although there is no correlation between better testing and better control of the virus.
for example traveling to and from countries that have a high risk (more than 20-50 cases per 100 000; talk about high risk) you need to have a covid test.

The test they are doing now are PCR based tests. this is a genetic test based on duplication of DNA/RNA strands with a specific primer.
What if they are collecting DNA of all the population under the pretence of covid testing. What they will do with it I don't know but they certainly now have an opportunity to do it.

Maybe getting too paranoid but I don't see any logical reason to test completely healthy people ... or even mildly sick people. When in hospital you need to know to get the right treatment but up to that the body will take care of itself.

They try to limit visitors to blankenberge(ocean part of belgium) i know are trains packed wirh humans to the last cm and attract anger by the hot temperatures, in my country they even make night partys in woods, ok folks beats their own records it seems

 

[Alain]

Genetic clones eventually, the grays seem to be top experts in those things

 

[Bert]

Now, in this year of the introduction of Covid, and the imposed governance regulations on almost all aspects of our lives, I see that having individuals split away from the group and isolated is very much a factor in the lead up to everything that has been planned as an agenda. Because I see it, it doesn't worry me so much because I can create a life by mental means, like books, art, craft; but imagine the hundreds of thousands like me who are just plain suffering, with no-one to turn to.

If I look at my life 90 % stayed the same but the 10 % can really but burdon the rest as it hangs as a sword of Damocles above your head.
you always need to think:
- if you need a mounth mask
- is there a curfew
- can I go to a amusement park in another country for a day or are there restrictions...
- how will the kids have it in school from september?
- how will the sports and hobbies of the kids go
...

Just having an idea in the morning for a day out and going without worries is difficult.

but on the other hand We have a close family and we make a lot of fun.
A friend of mine is also single and went from doing a lot of stuff with friends and having social contacts at work to working at home and having his social life cut away for a large part. It's not easy in these times for single people. I'm glad you found your way in life.

 

[Bert]

Genetic clones eventually, the grays seem to be top experts in those things

I wasn't thinking about clones. yesterday I got this insight:
In the stories of Valiant (William T. griffith) there was a story of humankind that was degenerated by the reptilians.
they essentially increased our hormone levels so that we were slaves of our hormones with all turmoil that you can imagine (war, adultary, rape,...).
then there was space ship stranded on earth. They saw what was happening and released a virus that made genetic modifications to lessen the hormone production. Also there was some interbreeding with the children staying on earth.

What if the PTW know which codes representing these changes and they are looking for the markers in the genetic testing just to find the descendants of this.
Or just a marker that indicates persons that pose a high risk to them of revolting or posing a risk to them.

genetics is much further than they want us to believe...

 

[Alain]

there can be so many possibilities which are partially or totally true or downright totally false

we know it once the mist dissipated from the occupied territory

 

[Snowmelt]

I wasn't thinking about clones. yesterday I got this insight:
In the stories of Valiant (William T. griffith) there was a story of humankind that was degenerated by the reptilians.
they essentially increased our hormone levels so that we were slaves of our hormones with all turmoil that you can imagine (war, adultary, rape,...).
then there was space ship stranded on earth. They saw what was happening and released a virus that made genetic modifications to lessen the hormone production. Also there was some interbreeding with the children staying on earth.

What if the PTW know which codes representing these changes and they are looking for the markers in the genetic testing just to find the descendants of this.
Or just a marker that indicates persons that pose a high risk to them of revolting or posing a risk to them.

genetics is much further than they want us to believe...

I think Valiant talks about the Tribe of Dan, doesn't he?

 

[Bert]

I think Valiant talks about the Tribe of Dan, doesn't he?

it is indeed the tribe of the Danu
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuatha_D%C3%A9_Danann

It is said that all the tales of the elves come from there.
highly evolved people with a lot of mysterious things that can disappear, fly,...
and in the end leaves again to unknown lands far away.

 

[Linda]

Had an interesting conversation with a young man in his 20s. He was a 100% believer in what the CDC and WHO reported. I made a few observations about that.

What I recall the most is his face when I spoke of other cases in history. He seemed stunned that this had happened before. I explained that my grandparents lived through the Spanish Flu epidemic, and I, the polio epidemic. My point was that there have been other epidemics, and none were handled like this one.

We parted on good terms, with his saying he liked a good conversation because you always can learn something new.

Once again it comes down to the ability to think critically, as well as some since of history. Interestingly, he did say his public school education was a joke.

Here is where it gets really interesting. I was "told" to go to that place on Monday. I did not know why, but the situation arose where I had that conversation. I've been concerned about his and many other young people's lack of critical thinking skills. Then I had a dream this morning, which is posted here and here.

Then PG pointed out that today is a 20 20 20 number.

 

[Alain]

at work one of the sceptics did quite a turn in seeing the things, i was also a bit implicated, we in the service don t wear masks as we can maintain the distance by the size of the place

they talk about the cases but what about those who died in between, so he understood that but freedoms are at risk and he likes his freedoms

i start to wonder for sure what this so called "VIRUS" really is as so much data contradicts but not what media makes it look like