Voter Fraud & The 2020 USA Election (5 Viewers)

[Kevin C]

Was sent this one. Hard to take things like this seriously:

Just like the 50k Chinese soldiers dead in Maine rumor... It's junk... I laughed at the quantum computing tidbit. If that were the case (predict and see the future), why not use it earlier and stop the whole pandemic last Dec, or even the election farce? Could have saved the world.
Then there's the other issue - many countries have quantum computers, just at different stages of development. So... Everyone can see the future then? Timeline Paradoxes abound.

 

[Linda]

Many pieces moved today, but I'm not that good a chess player to comment on potential outcomes.

We now have electors and alternative electors from the swing states. Kevin C can sort this better than I can.

A report is due from Ratcliffe (DNI) on the 18th about the security of this election. Should his report show massive fraud, then the governors knowingly certified fraudulent results. No way to tell where this goes right now.

Barr stepped down, and the new acting attorney general, Jeff Rosen, may be an unknown quantity in terms of how he perceives the DOJ and FBI.

SolarWinds (Austin tech company) was notified that one of their platforms was hacked in a highly sophisticated manner from another country. This software is used in many government and business applications - and - of course, on dominion voting machines. There are whispers that two of the execs sold a lot of their stock recently and that the FBI, US Marshalls, and Texas Rangers are onsite. Maybe true and maybe not, but if true then that is some very fast action, which would be an indicator of the seriousness of the situation. Again - unknown at this time.

 

[Snowmelt]

Simon Parkes has a very clear message and explanation of the Electoral system in the USA for those who are not familiar with it (as I was not) at his blog website https://www.simonparkes.org/. Especially his message of 14th December (the updated one) which explains about State Legislature, and how that body of people don't have to actually support the vote result reported by the Governor of the State. It's quite different to what we have in our voting system here, which is party list proportional representation. Simon Parkes also explains about Electoral College voting for those who are unaware of that process.

 

[Linda]

OK, I've slept, so I can dive into the situation.

In each state the local secretary of state receives the info about the election, makes a determination whether or not the results are legitimate, and sends on to the governor, who then certifies the election results.
The electors from which ever party won, cast their votes for president and vice-president, and they are sent to congress.
We had a break in this process at this point.
The republicans (Trump) in 7 states presented their own electors. Although these votes were not certified by the governors, they were sent to Congress.

Several things could happen at this point, depending on lawsuits. The level of fraud and incompetence in these states is eye-watering, and the results of the lawsuits could force audits, or in some cases, an overturn of election results.

Then we move on to January 6, when the votes of the electors are opened. Members of the house may challenge the electors. In that case, the president of the senate makes the final determination. Who is this person, you ask - the vice-president, Mike Pence.

For me personally, the info from the recently completed audits of the dominion machines is nauseating - I mean that literally. The level of corruption is beyond anything I ever conceived. However, the majority of the public is unaware because none of this is reported in the MSN. I'm one of those people who carefully looks at alternative news sites and triangulates info if necessary. That is what it has come to.

Keep your seatbelts fastened because there still is turbulence, and we don't know which way the events will turn.

 

[Kevin C]

OK, I've slept, so I can dive into the situation.

In each state the local secretary of state receives the info about the election, makes a determination whether or not the results are legitimate, and sends on to the governor, who then certifies the election results.
The electors from which ever party won, cast their votes for president and vice-president, and they are sent to congress.
We had a break in this process at this point.
The republicans (Trump) in 7 states presented their own electors. Although these votes were not certified by the governors, they were sent to Congress.

Several things could happen at this point, depending on lawsuits. The level of fraud and incompetence in these states is eye-watering, and the results of the lawsuits could force audits, or in some cases, an overturn of election results.

Then we move on to January 6, when the votes of the electors are opened. Members of the house may challenge the electors. In that case, the president of the senate makes the final determination. Who is this person, you ask - the vice-president, Mike Pence.

For me personally, the info from the recently completed audits of the dominion machines is nauseating - I mean that literally. The level of corruption is beyond anything I ever conceived. However, the majority of the public is unaware because none of this is reported in the MSN. I'm one of those people who carefully looks at alternative news sites and triangulates info if necessary. That is what it has come to.

Keep your seatbelts fastened because there still is turbulence, and we don't know which way the events will turn.

At this point, none of this matters anymore. Consider that MSM is in bed with them, and Big Tech hired "censorship" people through H1-B to provide censor algorithms for hate speech, political-speech, etc. - which obviously skew Dems/liberals/non-Americans.
That means the entire Fourth Estate has been completely taken hostage and turned into a weapon for invasion, no matter which country.

Even if Trump wins through the courts/legislatures, he will still have to endure all the crap from the past 4 years all over again.

I believe Powell, Wood, Miller and Flynn have enough evidence to allow Trump to activate his EO and call Insurrection Act. We need to clean up Big Tech, MSM and the state/local governments in order to save America's independence and status as a nation.

mini-update: Note the Dominion CEO's self-serving testimony in Michigan: a series of human errors... PLEassee.... stop lying and expecting everyone to be stupid dolts... It is blatantly obvious that electoral fraud is both software/algorithm/adjustments and a deliberate fake ballot feeding plan.
Unfortunately, we will only see MSM snippet the self-serving portion and show it to the public.

 

[Linda]

We need to clean up Big Tech, MSM and the state/local governments in order to save America's independence and status as a nation.

Been having visions along this line.

 

[Snowmelt]

At this point, none of this matters anymore. Consider that MSM is in bed with them, and Big Tech hired "censorship" people through H1-B to provide censor algorithms for hate speech, political-speech, etc. - which obviously skew Dems/liberals/non-Americans.
That means the entire Fourth Estate has been completely taken hostage and turned into a weapon for invasion, no matter which country.

Even if Trump wins through the courts/legislatures, he will still have to endure all the crap from the past 4 years all over again.

I believe Powell, Wood, Miller and Flynn have enough evidence to allow Trump to activate his EO and call Insurrection Act. We need to clean up Big Tech, MSM and the state/local governments in order to save America's independence and status as a nation.

mini-update: Note the Dominion CEO's self-serving testimony in Michigan: a series of human errors... PLEassee.... stop lying and expecting everyone to be stupid dolts... It is blatantly obvious that electoral fraud is both software/algorithm/adjustments and a deliberate fake ballot feeding plan.
Unfortunately, we will only see MSM snippet the self-serving portion and show it to the public.

Yes, I keep coming up against individuals who continue to use lying and gaslighting as a way of communication - in other words, they are still on the old mantra of "I Win, You Lose". I'm like, what century and what planet are you on? Whenever I speak my truth after one such attempt to obscure reason and clarity, there is a pin-drop silence. No-one responds.

The whole Mega-Mess is only indicative of the smaller messes people make in their own lives. It is accumulative and aggregated.

 

[therium]

it is almost like they wanted to be caught. So that takes us into another line of thought - is the goal to put up a candidate that "they" knew would not win, but the discord from untangling the fraud would drive the country even further apart.

There are multiple sources predicting there will be "2 earths". How you interpret that is up to you. But I see some people separating and going to states that agree with their political views, and continuing the separation more and more over time. I think some people add in their interpretations to visions they see, and this can be problematic. I have learned to separate my visions from my interpretations and that has helped me. As conditions change my interpretations of my visions change too.

Many of my visions are simply about big change in many areas of life and around the world.

 

[therium]

Sorry Laron. The 'source' is not even anonymous. The text looked familiar to me as I read it 1 or 2 days ago. It was written by Mike Adams

Mike Adams, Aka Health Ranger, or something like that, runs NaturalNews.com, often referred to as NN. I think he means well but I don't put much faith in any of his articles since there is no source link in almost any of them. And I certainly do not think he has inside information.

 

[Kevin C]

Mike Adams, Aka Health Ranger, or something like that, runs NaturalNews.com, often referred to as NN. I think he means well but I don't put much faith in any of his articles since there is no source link in almost any of them. And I certainly do not think he has inside information.

I don't think you look around at his site much. Although some of his claims are extraordinary, he does follow up and post links/references.

See today's notes for his podcast with links attached to each detailed section of his pointers
(note you have to scroll down a bit, the top is a bullet point list of his podcast):

Situation Update, Dec. 17th – Ratcliffe confirmation of foreign interference hands Trump justification to SEIZE ballots, voting machines – NaturalNews.com

There is an incredible dynamic unfolding today as the deep state is pressuring DNI Ratcliffe to try to delay the foreign interference report that’s due this Friday (the 18th). Here are the highlights of today’s Situation Update (Dec. 17th), which is embedded below. Foreign interference in the US...

www.naturalnews.com

You just need to wait till mid-day for him to transcribe his podcast thoughts and post his notes. He basically posts three times a day for each day's "tidbits"
-podcast on Brighteon
-summary: this is what you looked at
-then full notes with links

I'm not 100% supporting all of his claims, but cross referencing a lot of stuff you do see some of the themes/flows of situations that are happening under the radar. Some of his military stuff seem to take a few days to show up on the screen of life somewhere...

But he is not the quack that MSM and big tech tries to make him as. He is just like all of us on this thread (with possibly better connections to the military and government than we do).

Just need to treat him like zerohedge: some are legit, some are sham, some take time, some fizzle out, make your own conclusions.

BTW - for those of you curious how I'm able to both work and read so much news, I'm one of those computer multitaskers who have a browser open with 80-100 tabs open, lol... I just Control-Tab my way through all my tabs and scan each page whenever I take a 5 minute break, lol.

 

[Snowmelt]

I don't think you look around at his site much. Although some of his claims are extraordinary, he does follow up and post links/references.

See today's notes for his podcast with links attached to each detailed section of his pointers
(note you have to scroll down a bit, the top is a bullet point list of his podcast):

Situation Update, Dec. 17th – Ratcliffe confirmation of foreign interference hands Trump justification to SEIZE ballots, voting machines – NaturalNews.com

There is an incredible dynamic unfolding today as the deep state is pressuring DNI Ratcliffe to try to delay the foreign interference report that’s due this Friday (the 18th). Here are the highlights of today’s Situation Update (Dec. 17th), which is embedded below. Foreign interference in the US...

www.naturalnews.com

You just need to wait till mid-day for him to transcribe his podcast thoughts and post his notes. He basically posts three times a day for each day's "tidbits"
-podcast on Brighteon
-summary: this is what you looked at
-then full notes with links

I'm not 100% supporting all of his claims, but cross referencing a lot of stuff you do see some of the themes/flows of situations that are happening under the radar. Some of his military stuff seem to take a few days to show up on the screen of life somewhere...

But he is not the quack that MSM and big tech tries to make him as. He is just like all of us on this thread (with possibly better connections to the military and government than we do).

Just need to treat him like zerohedge: some are legit, some are sham, some take time, some fizzle out, make your own conclusions.

BTW - for those of you curious how I'm able to both work and read so much news, I'm one of those computer multitaskers who have a browser open with 80-100 tabs open, lol... I just Control-Tab my way through all my tabs and scan each page whenever I take a 5 minute break, lol.

WOW - the neurons in your head must lead to a huge Archive!

 

[Laron]

I noticed a meme today that I was tempted to share it on Facebook with my 27k followers/friends, but decided not to as it tends to divide people.

It said on the 6th more information will be revealed to show the fraud, and Trump will get back in. I'm sure some of you are aware of this from other sources?

 

[Snowmelt]

I noticed a meme today that I was tempted to share it on Facebook with my 27k followers/friends, but decided not to as it tends to divide people.

It said on the 6th more information will be revealed to show the fraud, and Trump will get back in. I'm sure some of you are aware of this from other sources?

I can corroborate, as I had the date 6th January given in a dream (can't remember whole sequence, now). Also the number $72 - I can't fathom that one.

 

[Kevin C]

I can corroborate, as I had the date 6th January given in a dream (can't remember whole sequence, now). Also the number $72 - I can't fathom that one.

Jan 6th is the day when Congress meets to certify electors. If there is at least 1 complaint from each Senate and House, then VP Pence can make adjustments and nullify certain electors per the complaints.
According to some, there are at least 2 senators and at least 20+ reps who are officially opposing certifying the Dem electors in contested states, and to certify the Repub slate of electors in their place.

If Pence calls to nullify electors and nobody gets to 270, that is where the "1 state, 1 vote" comes in. This reflects the state makeup, and cannot be changed (i.e., a state has majority Repub, but they are "never Trumpers", so they decide their one vote to go to Democrat - can't do that).
The vote is basically automatic based on state legislature majorities.

The current state makeup is 30 Repub, 20 Dem. Trump wins.

This is why there is mounting pressure for Americans to show up in DC on the 5-6th and exert public pressure on Congress to "stop the steal". There is so much evidence of the myriad ways the election was stolen (from the blatant voter fraud/vote stuffing to the clandestine Dominion computer shenanigans/manipulation), that as long as it continues to be shown light, the tide will eventually turn.

This is precisely why Big Tech (FB/Twitter/Google/Youtube/Amazon/Apple) and all of MSM are currently schizophrenic and hyper about censoring anything Trump/voter fraud/Dominion related - because if they lose, they will lose section 230 protection, which will destroy their monopoly power as well as decimate their balance sheets (hence their inflated stock prices) as free speech lawsuits mount.

 

[Snowmelt]

Jan 6th is the day when Congress meets to certify electors. If there is at least 1 complaint from each Senate and House, then VP Pence can make adjustments and nullify certain electors per the complaints.
According to some, there are at least 2 senators and at least 20+ reps who are officially opposing certifying the Dem electors in contested states, and to certify the Repub slate of electors in their place.

If Pence calls to nullify electors and nobody gets to 270, that is where the "1 state, 1 vote" comes in. This reflects the state makeup, and cannot be changed (i.e., a state has majority Repub, but they are "never Trumpers", so they decide their one vote to go to Democrat - can't do that).
The vote is basically automatic based on state legislature majorities.

The current state makeup is 30 Repub, 20 Dem. Trump wins.

This is why there is mounting pressure for Americans to show up in DC on the 5-6th and exert public pressure on Congress to "stop the steal". There is so much evidence of the myriad ways the election was stolen (from the blatant voter fraud/vote stuffing to the clandestine Dominion computer shenanigans/manipulation), that as long as it continues to be shown light, the tide will eventually turn.

This is precisely why Big Tech (FB/Twitter/Google/Youtube/Amazon/Apple) and all of MSM are currently schizophrenic and hyper about censoring anything Trump/voter fraud/Dominion related - because if they lose, they will lose section 230 protection, which will destroy their monopoly power as well as decimate their balance sheets (hence their inflated stock prices) as free speech lawsuits mount.

As usual, a candid, straight-forward explanation from you Kevin C. As a non-American I do appreciate the details being laid out for me.

 

[Linda]

This process has illuminated the brilliance of the vision of the founding fathers and mothers of this republic. While they were just as flawed as many of us, they did possess an unerring foresight into the possibilities that might arise.

There is a plethora of evidence of voting irregularities that await court hearings to bring it to the level of proof. However, the presence of undeniable interference (windows being covered, poll watchers being prevented from meaningful observation, and last minute changes in voting rules by governors and agencies without the legal right to do so) is sufficient to call into question the results. Granted there are questions about the dominion machines, but that is difficult for many to understand.

The unwillingness of the state election officials to do any meaningful investigations also calls into question the validity of the outcome. Here is where you ask what would a reasonable person do. I've done financial analysis and written reports on big projects that went through a review process. Sometimes the reviewer had questions and once in a blue moon (lol) there was an error. What did I do - I looked at the comments, reviewed my work, and sometimes made corrections. Why - because I wanted my work to be the best possible. What did that mean - not being attached to my work or a particular outcome. It is at this point that many states are failing.

This weekend I listened to a few podcasts and read several articles about the disintegration of freedom of speech in colleges and universities. Many good points were raised, but there were no actionable solutions. For me, I believe we are at the tipping point - a make it or break it point. It is time to make the leap because if not now, it likely will be a long, long time before we come around to this point again. Have you ever been caught in a rip current while swimming off shore? There is no way to directly fight the current, so you do the sidestroke until you feel a lessening in the flow - then you make your move and get out of the current. (Yes, it has happened to me.) We are at that point now.

One of the most interesting aspects of these times is the number of spiritually/energetically aware people who see this as a time to make the change. While Trump has his issues, most see him as the person who is here at this point in time to break free of the deep state shackles, and at the very least, give us a more equal footing to make meaningful changes in our lives. I see this sentiment from people all around the world. It is this inner knowing that carries me forward now.

 

[GregH3000]

Justed watched this keynote presentation entitled "The End of Time" (thanks to someone here for the recommendation) by Sacha Stone in Urulu, Australia last night. Very inspiring! Today I actually felt a big boost in healthy vigor and positive outlook... quite refreshing!

Anyway, I digress. Stone passionately argues that the recent solstice conjunction will have many compelling, beneficial effects, including a raising of the vibration in the justice/righteousness collective consciousness, helping the president secure his legitimately earned second term. Check it out; fascinating Q & A at the close as well.

 

[Linda]

Here is a wonderful article about the January 6th situation. It has happened before with Thomas Jefferson, and we are in an equally historic time. With two sets of electors from the swing states, Pence may choose to recognize the republican electors as the duly elected ones, which will give Trump the electoral votes. Pence seems like a steady and thoughtful person and describes himself as a christian, conservative, and republican.

"You Have a Rendezvous with Destiny, Mr. Vice President" - On January 6th Vice President Pence Will Choose the Direction of the World for Years to Come - Like Thomas Jefferson Did Centuries Ago | The Gateway Pundit | by Joe Hoft

VP Mike Pence has the unique opportunity in world history where he can keep the nation and its people free or he can sentence the world to generations of slavery in a matter of minutes on January 6th.

www.thegatewaypundit.com

 

[Kevin C]

Here is a wonderful article about the January 6th situation. It has happened before with Thomas Jefferson, and we are in an equally historic time. With two sets of electors from the swing states, Pence may choose to recognize the republican electors as the duly elected ones, which will give Trump the electoral votes. Pence seems like a steady and thoughtful person and describes himself as a christian, conservative, and republican.

"You Have a Rendezvous with Destiny, Mr. Vice President" - On January 6th Vice President Pence Will Choose the Direction of the World for Years to Come - Like Thomas Jefferson Did Centuries Ago | The Gateway Pundit | by Joe Hoft

VP Mike Pence has the unique opportunity in world history where he can keep the nation and its people free or he can sentence the world to generations of slavery in a matter of minutes on January 6th.

www.thegatewaypundit.com

I think Pence realizes that there needs to be a reverse "mob" situation. If he had gone through with the elector rejection option, he would've been seen as a despot doing the work of a "dictator" trying to hold power. As a republic, there needs to be a groundswell of public support (similar to the old Greek Senate system) - aka 2-3M American militia march to DC - in order to force the hand of the federal system to realize that not listening to the patriotic citizens will incite immediate revolts.

Recall the movie "Gladiator", when Maximus gradually switched audience/populace power from Commodus to him through the Colisseum fights.
At the end of the movie, the authority rests in Maximus due to support from the citizens and the populace (as well as respect and recognition of authority from the Roman legions).
Basically, if he wasn't mortally injured and he wanted to, he could've become Emperor of Rome right there.
Instead, he hands power over to the Roman Senate leader Gracchus to lead the Roman Empire, handing power to the people.

The Maximus scenario is what Trump/Powell/Giuliani and Pence are now aiming for. And we can see that with the growing numbers of senators, reps, and state legislatures who are protesting the stolen election.

 

[Linda]

The Maximus scenario is what Trump/Powell/Giuliani and Pence are now aiming for. And we can see that with the growing numbers of senators, reps, and state legislatures who are protesting the stolen election.

Dreams, visions, and some interactions are showing me people waking up. In one of the visions, I was hearing a family talking and one of the elder ones said - This is not what this family is about - meaning all the cheating and that the end does NOT justify the means. I've got a few friends with different political leanings (we never discuss politics), and they are starting to understand more of what happened. I made the comment that all of us need to recognize what happened or else we will never have a real election again. They nodded silently.

You make a very good point about how the story unfolds.

 

[Laron]

Came across this prediction from Peter Vaughan regarding Trump and a few others, for 2021 (first 3 people of many included below):

Trump defeats Biden, who is found to be part of the biggest election fraud in modern history. Biden falls ill or off his perch in 2021.​

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Kamala Harris (who was) waiting for Biden to drop off, has a rude awakening in January then things get worse in March. She has the same personality as Ardern.​

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Jacinda Ardern, Clark Gayford and Neve have the worst year ever, likely due to Trumps victory and her being under the spotlight and already listed and labelled as one of the worlds C.C.P. collaborators in bed with Xi Jinping as broadcast by US officials.​

BIO:

"Born in New Zealand, Peter has invested most of his life to the study of people, including businesses and corporations, tracking their progress in ways and at levels never before seen in the Public and Corporate arenas. He’s often thought of as having a ‘gift’ but say’s he’s no more gifted than any other person. He’s just enthusiastic and has tirelessly developed a system using Codes and complex Math Formulas to plot and track events in people’s lives they encounter, with formidable accuracy.​

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Peter’s skill to provide accurate assessment for people (using Human Diagnostics), and for Companies (using Data Intelligence), is more than can be offered by others in any associated field.​

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Peter’s appearances on Radio, Television, and as a speaker and stage performer, amazes people with his accuracy and projections."​

 

[Laron]

^ This guy sounds like he may have a webbot system setup.

 

[GregH3000]

Thanks for the Vaughan link, Laron; these are the kind of alternative points of view I love dropping in ardent pro-president comment threads.

 

[Kevin C]

Here we go, groundswell of disputes is swelling...... Dems in "panic".

ZeroHedge

ZeroHedge - On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero

www.zerohedge.com

DEMS IN A PANIC: Amy Klobuchar Slams Sen. Hawley for Challenging Fraudulent Election Results - Calling It a "Coup Attempt" | The Gateway Pundit | by Jim Hoft

Missouri Senator Josh Hawley announced on Wednesday that he will object to the Electoral College certification process on January 6th.

www.thegatewaypundit.com

 

[Linda]

One of our senators is a wimp but Cruz has made noise about objecting.

 

[Kevin C]

Any election using Dominion is now uncertifiable, and officials can be prosecuted.

BREAKING – GAME OVER: Dominion voting machines LIVE HACKED during Georgia Senate hearing – NaturalNews.com

Despite all the fake news lies that claimed Dominion voting machines could not be hacked and could not be used to alter the outcome of the election, analyst Jovan Pulitzer has just unleashed a bombshell announcement during a live Georgia senate hearing. White hat hackers were able to remotely...

www.naturalnews.com

 

[Linda]

I was curious about this news item - surely hacking into the voting machines in real time would be news. Network and cable news - nothing; news websites - only Gateway Pundit; secondary news sites - many of them. Now, how to get this news out to the public - that is the question.

Interesting timing - this evening I got a call from a survey group - the topic was where do you get your news and are you active politically.

 

[GregH3000]

If Hawley is not blocked somehow by the reptilian McConnell and his gruesome sidekick Medusa, I am certain the junior senator from Minnesota will be a major contender for president in 2024. He is exhibiting real moral courage here, and the response from Wal-Mart was crass and disrespectful. I made sure to call their Customer Service line to express my displeasure (please join me; (800) 925-6278).

Regrettably, I don't think Pence has the "right stuff" to shift the electors in the contested states. After watching the amazing subcommittee hearing in GA yesterday (12/30), however, I was blown away by the scale and connectivity of the evidence; undoubtedly, Pence would have plenty of rhetorical and evidentiary firepower to justify his potentially explosive decision. Even a child could see how it all matches up; the deviousness and total disdain for the rule of law exhibited by both Democrats and their accomplices in the "Republican" party is beyond breathtaking. (I plan on donating much of the $600 I am about to receive to the "Total Recall" movements in GA and AZ).

Clearly, this disgusting "election" (certainly not worthy of such a name) is an historical abomination. All of the courageous souls who have given their lives to defend our republic and our Constitution must be crying out in anguish.

Addendum: here is one of my heroines, Catherine Austin Fitts, laying out the globalist agenda with her usual thorough and granular incisiveness.

 

[GregH3000]

One of our senators is a wimp but Cruz has made noise about objecting.

Cornyn needs to be challenged next election or (preferably) recalled. He appears to be on board with "Mr. Global" and his tyrannical transhumanist agenda.

 

[Kevin C]

This article explains why MSM in US is compromised.

Full list of TRAITOR media outlets that accepted “sponsored trips” from communist China to oppress the truth in America: These are the ENEMIES of the people – NaturalNews.com

A stunning list of media outlets that have accepted “sponsored trips” from communist China to suppress the truth (and terrorize their own audiences with fake news lies) has now been published by The National Pulse. As TNP explains: The effort, according to the U.S. government report, aims to “to...

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Obvious voter fraud will never show up.